Religious OCD: Clinging to Jesus

So, what’s it  like to struggle with Religious OCD?  It’s not really possible for me to share all the ways that it effected me because there wouldn’t be enough words or written expressions to really convey the whole of it.  But, I can share a bit of it with the hope that maybe what I say might resonate with someone else who is suffering or maybe create a level of understanding and empathy in families who have a loved one who struggles with it.

Before going any further on I need to clarify that my experience with Religious OCD may differ from that of others because my OCD is not typical to what people might generally expect to see in a person with my disorder.  I don’t perform outwardly observable rituals or compulsions as do many people with the classic or typical form of OCD.  The only compulsion that I share with that form of OCD is avoidance. Other than that, the vast majority of my compulsive activity is carried out within my mind in a non observable way.  This form of OCD is usually referred to as Pure O or Purely Obsessional OCD.  This terminology, although it’s helpful in defining the differences between these two forms of OCD, can  be misleading in that it seems to suggest that there isn’t any compulsive activity associated with Pure O.  Yet, anyone with Pure O will agree that when the disorder is severe, the compulsive activity is being carried out every waking minute of the day.

The compulsive activity of Pure O is as follows:

1. Rumination: This is the  all encompassing term which covers most Pure O compulsions. Rumination means that the intrusive/ distressing thoughts, questions doubts are mulled over or attended to every waking minute. I mean this quite literally. The thoughts greet you as soon as your eyes pop open in the morning and they are the last thing on your mind just before you fall asleep.. that is IF you can fall asleep. To state that you are preoccupied with them is an enormous understatement.
2. Reassurance seeking: Asking close family/friends certain questions in order to provoke reassuring statements from them in an effort to fight off the fear.
3. Problem solving; Intense mental effort to try and figure out why you are struggling with the obsessional theme.
4. Arguing: Mental argumentation against the disturbing thoughts in an effort to try and gain some feeling of reassurance that they aren’t true. Many times this can be logical reasoning but no matter how much sense the argument makes it doesn’t erase the obsession or the anxiety because you can’t out logic OCD. (Why? that’s another topic for another post.)
5. Canceling/countering: These are mental statements or repetitive words or phrases which are made to try and undo or cancel the unwanted thought. Praying and confessing are often employed in a repetitive way in order to try and cancel the intrusive thoughts because the sufferer feels that they are to blame for having them.
6, Research: Internet searches aimed at gaining some feeling of reassurance. For example: if you are struggling with health obsessions you may research certain health topics. If you struggle with Religious OCD you might continually research topics like: eternal security or the unpardonable sin, or doubting your salvation.
(1-6 are all about trying to gain a feeling of certainty or reassurance which the sufferer believes will finally lay it all to rest.)
6. Avoidance: Avoiding things related to the obsession because those things trigger intense anxiety and put you in the place of having to sit with or face the fear. This is when Pure O can become very disabling as the sufferer begins to avoid the normal every day activities of life because the anxiety has become so intense.

(This list is not an exhaustive one, just a very basic overview of the compulsive activity of Pure O.)

Religious OCD roared into my life about eight years ago.  During that time I had already been struggling for several months with other obsessional themes; health related obsessions and self-harm obsessions.  At that time, however, I still hadn’t been diagnosed with OCD but had a long standing diagnosis of Panic Disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder. It’s sad that I’d struggled with OCD for so long without knowing what it was, but sadly that’s the case for a lot of folk. Therefore, when Religious OCD first reared it’s ugly head, I fought it blindly without a shred of knowledge as to why these horrible thoughts were plaguing me or what I could do to escape from them.

My Religious OCD:

The first assault came on like the charge of a lion that had been hiding in tall grass, just waiting for the opportune time to leap out and catch me off guard.  I had been listening to a sermon on a CD while doing dishes when just one sentence from the speaker seemed to shout, accuse and terrify me.  It went something like this: “If you are still struggling with sin on a daily basis, maybe you need to consider the possibility that you might not be a true believer.”  As that sentence sliced into my mind, the following thoughts poured out one right after another like water from a burst dam;  “I struggle with sin in one way or another nearly every day.  What if this means I’m not a true believer?!  What if this is why I’m going through this season of unrelenting fear and terrifying thoughts?! Maybe God’s been trying to tell me something!  How can I be sure I’m a true believer?!” These thoughts were accompanied by the most crushing feeling of terror.  I found it hard to breathe, my heart began racing, a cold sweat broke out, I felt like I might vomit and my ears began ringing.  This was serious!  At least that’s how my brain perceived it at that time.  And that was the beginning of one my worst OCD obsessional themes which I refer to in my book as: The “Tower of Terror”.

From that moment forward I began a desperate search for certainty regarding my standing with God. I would mentally review my past relationship with Christ; “when did it begin, how had I been assured of my salvation in the past, was there evidence that I was a believer, did I have real faith and how could I obtain absolute proof that I was a genuine Christian?”

Suddenly the health obsessions took a back seat and the strange and bizarre self-harm thoughts wandered out to the fringes of my thinking rather than residing front and center.  Each morning I would wake up, stretch for a moment and then – WHAM! – it would hit me that I still needed to find a way to make certain that I was saved. One day while deep in the rumination process I suddenly had the thought: “Maybe God isn’t real after all, maybe it’s all been a sham.”  Words will always fall short of my being able to describe what utter despair and torture this mental utterance had on me. I wanted to un-think that thought, to find a way to erase it from my mind.  I was screaming back at it in my head: “NO, I do not believe that! I know God is real and I’ve known true intimacy with Christ for most of my adult life! Words from a familiar hymn came to mind: “You ask me how I know He lives? He lives within my heart!”  And yet for all my utter rejection of that thought, the fear that followed directly on its heels was more convincing than my argumentation. To think that such a thing could have entered my mind was just absolutely crushing. I prayed for God to forgive me for it and prayed again and again. “Surely He would forgive me for having a thought that I didn’t want to have. He would understand.” But, my OCD wasted no time in coming up with yet another horrid possibility. I had been studying several good apologetic books just prior to these events and one day this thought dropped into my mind to twist all that around into something evil: “The only reason you were even reading all those books was because deep down inside you’ve never been sure that you believed any of it at all.”  My OCD had taken something that had been a delight to my heart and twisted it into a way to accuse. That’s how it works, just when you feel you’re finding the smallest shred of reassurance another horrid possibility crops up which is typically worst than the last. As the weeks and even months wore on I started to experience intrusive thoughts that made me feel like I might be wanting to become an atheist.  With Pure O – OCD, whatever you don’t want to think is exactly what your mind goes to.  The harder you fight against the thoughts the more stuck and insistent they become. And the anxiety…(I wish there was a better word for it) is just indescribable.  I suppose if my head had been shoved into a guillotine with the blade about to drop that might come close to the intensity of the fear that accompanied these thoughts.  After all, the most important relationship of my entire life was being threatened. The One who filled my life with love, joy, hope and purpose might be lost to me forever and with that my eternal state would be utterly without hope.  There were days when I would just have this sudden realization that the whole thing was utter nonsense and I could actually breathe again and eat and sleep, but they were short- lived.  I remember one of those days when it suddenly occurred to me how odd it would be for an Atheist to be terrified of losing Christ or terrified of the prospect of hell. How can you be afraid of losing someone you don’t believe in or fear something you don’t think exists?  Those logical moments should have laid the whole matter to rest, but in the end it turns out that you cannot out logic OCD because it’s fueled by two things: Anxiety and any or all attending to its questions and doubts.  For every logical counter statement, every reassurance, every problem you think you’ve solved –  there is always going to be another dread filled “what if”? OCD is a hungry beast that thrives on attention.  It’s obsessions grow fatter and take up more and more space in the mind every single time you attend to them. When it’s thoroughly saturated your every waking moment that’s when it’s got you where it wants you.  The more you attend the more certain you will  feel that the whole matter is the most urgent thing in your entire life. To not pay attention to it, to cease trying sort it all might seem akin to ignoring a blaring  fire alarm that’s warning you to either douse the fire or flee from your house.  OCD sets huge fires of anxiety and doubt in the mind that compel the sufferer to feel that they must take action.

As my Religious OCD began to take over my life it also began to rob me of the joy of participating in the very things that had been most meaningful to me.  When I read my Bible I would stumble upon a verse that would seem to reinforce the fears I was struggling with. When I prayed it felt like I was just going through the motions while detached from the One I was praying to.  When I went to church I felt like I didn’t belong, that I was a contamination in the midst of the saints.  All those people that I knew to be Christians stood in stark contrast to me. All of it was so triggering in regard to the obsessions and I found it so hard to stay in the presence of these things because of how intense the Anxiety would get.  All that I loved most seemed to have been ripped away from me.  I felt desolate and alone – a freakish anomaly among the people of God.

So that’s the shortened version of what it’s like to be afflicted with Religious OCD.  It’s pretty awful and sad to say I’m not alone in my experience with it.  There are many others; young and old, male and female, those who love the Lord, those who serve the Lord, missionaries, teachers of the Word, pastors and pastors wives. OCD doesn’t discriminate  in regard to who it picks on.

Thankfully what I’ve related here isn’t the end of my story.  My OCD doesn’t manage me any longer, I manage it.  It is a very treatable condition.  I’m thankful that I was able to obtain a diagnosis and learn how to manage it effectively.  God has answered my prayer: “Return to me the joy of my salvation!”

My OCD Story:

30 thoughts on “Religious OCD: Clinging to Jesus

  1. kbailey374 January 31, 2015 / 3:37 pm

    Wow so much I relate to there Mitzi! thank you for sharing! My thoughts are often related to just guilt guilt guilt. I am at the point I’ve been unable to work since may, and previous to that long periods of being unable to work, due to tremendous anxiety, social phobia, and depression (also have manic periods due to my bipolar, but not as often)…

    How does this compare to scrupulosity and religiosity? I have heard those terms thrown around sometimes.


    • ocdmitzi77 February 1, 2015 / 7:38 pm

      Scrupulosity and Religiosity are the same thing as Religious OCD. All this means is that the OCD has latched on to and created a great deal of doubt and guilt about a persons faith. The person with Religious OCD will experience unwanted/intrusive thoughts regarding their faith which are accompanied by an intensely crushing weight of anxiety. The anxiety pushes the person to ruminate endlessly in an effort to gain some kind of reassurance which they feel will remove the fear. It sounds as though you have a dual diagnosis of Bipolar and Anxiety Disorders – is this correct? I was diagnosed with Panic Disorder and GAD for many years before I finally understood that I also had OCD. This is very common and in particular to the form of OCD called Pure O. For more information on Pure O as to the cause, effect and management I recommend visiting This site was so helpful to my learning to manage my Pure O -OCD. Praying for you. Mitzi

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      • kbailey374 February 2, 2015 / 2:34 am

        Thank you Mitzi! I will check it out this week!


  2. kristanwhann123 September 13, 2016 / 4:04 am

    I can not seriously thank you enough!!!! I RELATE TO ALMOST EVERYTHING in this post! The rumination, the arguments, the avoidance, etc…..This is so CRAZY. This has to be what I’ve been suffering with for literally years. Mine is Pure O– I will go through a mental list of things trying to gain comfort and security . It will help temporarily untill the obsessions come back roaring like a lion! I love God and want nothing more than to serve him and do his will —- and I have felt for years like I will always falls short because of my doubting and constant guilt feelings. Its been quite a roller coaster ride!!!! THANK YOU for being so open about your struggle. IT IS SO HELPFUL! I am thanking God for you tonight because it is such a relief to know that I am not alone.


  3. Nathan k March 11, 2017 / 12:15 am

    thank God the father and Jesus Christ for the eternal security of the believer he holds us through our times of doubt how thankful am I that it is not of my works but his its all Jesus all day and night forever NO ONE NOT EVEN YOU OR THE MIND CAN SNATCH US OUT OF HIS HAND woo amen amen amen
    that’s how good God is good doesn’t even encompass HIM he’s beyond good he is perfect and he does not break promises if you have trusted Christ alone for salvation its finished as he said on the cross

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  4. Craig S Andrews May 6, 2017 / 5:41 pm

    My wife was diagnosed with a chemical imbalance 25yrs years ago. It goes back further, just undiagnosed. She has been a carbon copy of the first article above. She has been hospitalized twice in the last 7mths,weeks at a time. Through adjustments and addition of other meds,she had been able to go back to work, but she still has problems. She is going to therapy once a week and it helps some. I need,we need,what is working for you. Again, she is exactly like the lady in the first article. I know everyone’s different but I have watched her being tortured and we are open to what’s worked for others. God bless y’all, Craig


    • ocdmitzi77 May 8, 2017 / 1:05 pm

      Hi Craig. I’m the lady in the article. I’m saddened to hear of your wife’s struggle with this obsessional theme. I know how painful it can be! Has she ever been officially diagnosed with OCD or a form of OCD called Pure O? If she has experienced the same type of things which I shared about in this blog then it’s very likely she has OCD. But, with the Pure O form it’s extremely common to go for nearly your whole adult life with out a diagnosis. If this is OCD then there is really only one approach in therapy which is helpful and that’s Exposure and Response Prevention therapy/ERP. If she or you are interesting in learning more about this you can read the rest of my story about how I manage my OCD in my book “Strivings Within – The OCD Christian” which is available via Amazon. Link: Also google articles on Pure O – OCD and visit The International OCD Foundation website. Hope this helps!


  5. Craig S Andrews May 25, 2017 / 8:48 pm

    Hey Mitzi. I’m not sure if my last msg posted so I’ll try again. My wife’s therapist asked for the link so I don’t know if he knows much about Pure O. I’m hesitant to be pushy regarding her therapy but I haven’t heard her talk about doing any cognitive therapy, i believe you said that is what helps the most. As she’s only met with him 4or5 times,they may be building trust first. She’s opened up more in the last 2 sessions so he may be headed that way. I will let you know her progress and will likely have more questions. Thank you, Craig S. Andrews


    • ocdmitzi77 May 29, 2017 / 12:30 pm

      Hi Craig, I replied to your first message on May 8th. You can also access my book via Amazon or ask your local book store to order it for you. I put the link in my last message. I would also check out this link: There’s a lot of good articles about Pure O and the best treatment approaches. Dr. Stephen Phillipson’s articles and some of his interviews on Youtube have been extremely helpful for me in the management approach for my Pure O.


      • Craig S Andrews May 29, 2017 / 10:28 pm

        Thanks for the reply. I’m not sure how but that particular message had been deleted and couldn’t find it. Your book and the link should get us more on track. Thanks again and I’ll let y’all know how it’s going. I did have one last question. I know all the variables that go into establishing a hard number, but do you have an opinion on just how many people have Pure O and the breakdown between men and woman? Thanks, Craig


  6. Sharon April 10, 2018 / 11:30 pm

    Thank you for sharing how OCD attacked your relationship with Jesus. The quote from Bunyan “this temptation is the worst….” Is true beyond words and tears. When that thought first came into my head it startled me so badly! The thought that I didn’t love my Savior – what could be worse? One thing I have noticed about the obsessive thoughts is that they never start a sentence with “I” but with “You.” All your articles bring some hope and strength. I am still going back and forth looking for assurance-reassurance. You are right about that not helping. I am so tired. This is a hard battle that I feel I will never conquer. I do love the Lord. Mitzi, I have even prayed along with you regarding trying to figure it all out. Though it is very difficult to believe God is near when the thoughts are against Him. All I do know is that, like Peter, there is nowhere I want to be. Please pray for me. Again, your story is encouraging to this weary sister. I dare to call you my sister.


    • ocdmitzi77 April 14, 2018 / 5:18 pm

      Thank you for your feedback Sharon. I’m glad my story/experience of OCD has encouraged you. And, yes, of course you can call me your sister, because we are precisely that in Christ Jesus! Hugs and prayers!


  7. Hannah Portlock September 10, 2018 / 1:15 pm

    Hi I have religious OCD. I knew I believed in a God and I attended church sometimes but I didn’t become a Christian until my OCD hit me.

    Therefore I’m not sure if I am truly saved. I have prayed the prayer of salvation since having the OCD and I do feel sorry for my sins but a lot of my motivation for praying it was to avoid hell, therefore I’m not sure if I was sorry enough.

    I don’t have the fruits of the Spirit to show evidence of my salvation, I definitely don’t put others first or fully want to.

    I read passages such as revelations where most of the churches are going to hell for not being good enough and I think what chance do I have?

    I have prayed for God to help me repent more deeply and to put others first and to be Lord of my life. I don’t know what else to do! I’m so afraid that I’m on valium and bed ridden. Please help!


    • ocdmitzi77 February 25, 2019 / 3:04 pm

      Sorry for the late reply. We’ve had a lot of family trials to walk through lately.
      I recommend you get with a good therapist who can teach you to do ERP or ACT therapy. If you haven’t already read my book about my journey with OCD it may be helpful to you also to at least provide some comfort in that you aren’t alone and there are things which can help you. It’s available through Amazon : Strivings Within The OCD Christian by Mitzi VanCleve. Praying you will get the help you need to alleviate your suffering.


    • chemistryapprentice January 21, 2021 / 12:36 pm

      Well no one goes to heaven by being good enough, sorry for your sins, or repenting of turning from sins. The only way to go to heaven is by believing Jesus, who is God in the flesh, died for your sins, was buried, and rose again on the 3rd day (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Once you believe that, you are sealed with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13) and given eternal life (1 John 5:10-13). You don’t need to do anything to earn, believe, or maintain salvation. Jesus paid it all


      • ocdmitzi77 January 31, 2021 / 12:02 am

        What you stated here is true, but with the disorder of OCD, truth and logic don’t solve a thing. There have been many people including Pastors who have this form of OCD. It’s not that they didn’t understand the basics of the Gospel.
        OCD is not caused by faulty thinking, it’s caused by faulty wiring. It’s the misfiring in the brain that overrides what a person actually knows to be true. This is not something that I can explain in a short statement like this one. But having lived through it, I can tell you that I knew and believed every bit of what you said before the OCD hit. It was only after I learned to manage the disorder and move past my OCD/Scrupe that I felt the comfort of my salvation once again.


      • Hannah Moore January 31, 2021 / 12:40 pm

        Hi I’ve bought your book, thank you


  8. Hannah Portlock September 10, 2018 / 1:20 pm

    I don’t know also if I truly love Jesus because I fear he is going to condemn me and that his standards for heaven are so high.

    I don’t know if I love anyone really, I’m just so selfish


    • ocdmitzi77 February 25, 2019 / 3:00 pm

      With OCD it’s really not about what you know, it’s more about how you feel. You feel fear/anxiety and may be triggered by many things you read in the Bible because OCD is forever searching for something to BE upset about. For the Christian their faith is a very good theme for OCD to latch on to because it’s the most important thing in their life.


    • jtm2957 September 18, 2019 / 6:41 pm

      For Hannah P. While you may struggle with ocd, I feel you have possibly a misunderstanding of the Gospel and love God has for you.

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      • ocdmitzi77 November 3, 2019 / 11:04 pm

        With OCD what you know is trumped by how you feel. It’s typically not a matter of misunderstanding the Gospel, but a matter of faulty wiring which make a person feel that they are lost. Reassurance won’t help until the OCD is dealt with.


    • ocdmitzi77 November 3, 2019 / 11:11 pm

      OCD makes one feel selfish and Scrupulosity/OCD will always make one feel that they have to keep up a certain standard of righteousness in order to feel “safe” regarding their position in Christ. One very common thing with Religious OCD/Scrupe is this struggle to feel the “right” emotions toward God and Christ. Just as soon as you start to try and examine and turn that over and over in your mind the feelings that you suppose you should have fly out the window. I wrote another blog on Checking your Emotions. You should check that out. In OCD even when you understand that the only righteousness that makes one fit for heaven is that which Christ supplies for us in His atonement for our sins, you can still feel that you somehow haven’t gotten it quite right. I don’t know if you’ve read my book about my experiences with OCD but if you are interested here’s the link.


  9. Taylor May 1, 2019 / 12:54 pm

    Did you ever struggle with other religions? My ocd has me fixated on Islam even though Ive seen the holes in it. Have you ever heard of OCD similar to this?


    • ocdmitzi77 November 3, 2019 / 11:15 pm

      I haven’t. I mostly struggled with the fear of my becoming an atheist. But, I know of several other people with this form of OCD who struggled with this exactly as you put it. So it’s not at all unusual within the context of the disorder.


  10. jtm2957 September 18, 2019 / 6:44 pm

    OCDMITZI77 I too deal with more Pure-O. Mostly unwanted intrusive thoughts/images of a sexual nature and faith doubts. Do I simply try to not respond and dwell on these no matter the anxiety?! Hard indeed to do. Thanks


    • ocdmitzi77 November 3, 2019 / 11:02 pm

      Sorry for the long delay. Just catching up after many months of family trials.
      Yes, this is actually a common thing in OCD and the way to manage the thoughts is the same through ERP. If you are interested in communicating with others who share your experience you can request to join our online support group. I will add the link to this reply and also the link to my book in case you haven’t read that yet.


  11. Robert Kirkman September 8, 2020 / 8:40 am

    Mitzi and all: I just ordered your book yesterday. I can’t wait for it to arrive. In the meantime, I want to say a couple things about my OCD and possible relationship with Christ. Often, an OCDer will say, in their post, “I love the Lord.” Well. at least they know they love the Lord and that should be a logical basis for putting their fears to rest (except, as you said, one cannot out logic OCD). My experience is different. I cannot absolutely assert “I love the Lord.” I wonder if I love the Lord. Also, I want to say that I have been “giving my life to Christ” many times per day, every day for over ten years. One thing I read yesterday is “Salvation is not about saying a prayer. Salvation is about trusting a person.” Thinking about that yesterday, I again “gave my life to Christ.” But this morning as I was thinking, I thought about the command to “deny yourself” and reached a point where I wasn’t sure I could trust the person of Christ, as to that requirement to deny oneself. As I thought about that, how I might not be able to trust with that requirement, I prayed, “Jesus, help me!” I since have given my life to Christ, supposedly, again a few times. But I wonder if I’m really trusting Him if I’m dubious about my full willingness to deny myself.


    • ocdmitzi77 January 30, 2021 / 11:56 pm

      Glad you are getting the book. I pray it will be helpful. Denying ourselves as Christ followers is an ongoing thing that is done over and over and most certainly not perfectly. That’s part of our “walk” not what saves us. OCD will attempt to make your position in Christ your responsibility when it’s His responsibility and not yours. It’s common for a person with this form of OCD to engage in repeated compulsions like yours of giving your life to Christ over and over again. What you will need to do is to focus on treating this as a disorder and not a spiritual issue. That will take courage, but in the end it is what will help you move past this obsessional theme. God Bless!


  12. Ryan McBride October 19, 2022 / 4:37 pm

    Hi, is there any chance I can share my story in private?


    • ocdmitzi77 October 19, 2022 / 9:23 pm

      We have a closed FB support group for people to share their stories with people who can relate. The link is at the top of my blog page in the menu.


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